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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 03:21:01 -0400

Tensegrity workshop of Barcelona 20 to 22 June 1997

Before going on, I have to mention that I was influenced by three  factors when writing this report.

First, it was my first workshop, a workshop I waited for years. The  expectation of participating to one, when I first heard about it in 94,  has evolved from urgency, along with personal obligation, to a quite  expecting hope. Now, I do no longer put an emphasis on the idea of  following a workshop. Consequently, I started here in Barcelona with the intention of not doing. No notes, nor attention to the schedule  or other printed papers. Just enjoy being here, and let other personal concerns hidden.

Second, I did somewhat doubt how time had evolved during the seminar.  It was like being out of time. I'm not sure anymore when exactly this or that were told. Therefore I will try to arrange the different  speeches and explanations in the order we attended them.

The third thing, is the way our ego do filters our experiences. This account is in fact more my personal view of the workshop.

The Workshop

The workshop was taking place in a huge sport hall, located near the beach. Around 700 people were attending the seminar. I was dazzled to notice that they were coming from all horizons. It was like looking at  crowd in the street: a mixture of young, old, fat, slim, outsiders, cultivated, distressed, fortunate. No common sign linked to nagualism's  interest. We were really representing the human races. At least half were Spanish, many Italian, and people from all of Europe,  including Russia. I met some American veterans as well.

I noted that most of the workshop participants weren't aware at all of the companions of Castaneda, the books of Florinda and Taisha, nor have they heard about former Tensegrity workshops in USA. Some of them were a  little confused, and were looking for some link from the content of CC books to the actual teaching trend (end of lineage, new sorcerer  paradigm, etc...). I can understand them. We already found much contradiction in the whole series of CC books. Their moods are  implacable, frightened and somewhat somber. And now, the witches told us different things. Like, we can do it by our own, even with our family, and Sex is not strictly forbidden. If the workshop had started with some explanation of the current affair, many attendees  could have better followed it. Seminar language was Spanish. Translation was available, in form of small personal devices, linked by radio to the translator. It was the first time I used such  devices. I spent the workshop half hearing French with my left ear, and the right one interpreting the original Spanish. It gave me some dual sound's view of the workshop. Thus, I enjoyed this new sensorial  dimension a lot.

Organization was a la American, enough staff to coordinate pragmatically the seminar. Security guard were controlling access  with metal detector. I do not forget, the Information desk, the shop  selling T-shirts, books and videos, sandwiches and drinks during breaks. All the staff was smiling and willing to help. They all were very concerned of the good timing of the workshop, crunching time from lecture, if we were late.

The workshop was evolving in four phases: small lecture, teaching of  Tensegrity movement, breaks and show of the Theater of Infinity. The  Element (3 young men, Brandon, Miles and ?) and the Energy tracker (6  women, divided in three group of two, Talia, Kylie...) were teaching  us Tensegrity movement. To follow them better, they were divided on three small platforms. Each session was lasting between 1hr to 1h30, and sometimes more. Florinda and Taisha were never present during the practice. The two witches were holding lectures between the  Tensegrity session. The Element and Energy tracker got also timeslot  for short speech. They were performing certainly most of the seminar work. It seems that the Castaneda group is putting on the new young  breed of sorcerers. The Element and the Energy tracker seem to be confident for explaining us sorcerer truth.

Florinda was apparently the real figure, fading out Taisha Abelar's  appearance. They are both small, very thin and chest less. Florinda is both young and old, full of energy, stepping back and forth across the small platform, staring at us, smiling, punctuating her story with mimics  and humorous expressions. Taisha performed in total two lectures seated in front of a table, which was put for the occasion on one of the platform. She's as smiling and as easy in words than Florinda. After having read many workshops accounts and heard friends talking  about her, I believed that she was younger looking and energetic. Maybe, she was here in Barcelona not really with us, doing some witches tricks....

Introduction Lecture
The Nature of the Magical Passes

"My name is Florinda. I know that you know my name. I'm not silly. Sorcerers state their names out loud when facing the unknown. We are beings who are going to die. By stating our name. We build a bridge to eternity. This bridge, or link to the infinity is built with the  intent of the sorcerer. This act implies taking total  responsibility, building an inflexible intent. There is nothing personal in this act. It's a pure statement."

"We are a group, not a group sharing personal concerns. We are a unit linked energetically. We do have the same goal, the same  purpose, a common embedded intent. It's not linked to everyday life,  where people think as individual. We are a group, but we live apart.  We only come together to practice."

"Castaneda is empty, he's here and not here, most of the time in the second attention. He's acting like a channel. 30 years ago, when  we were under Don Juan influences we witnessed the same emptiness of  the Nagual. He was an Illusion, not existing in the daily life. For some of us, it was likewise a ghost. We were afraid of this reality.  It was above our comprehension. Nowadays, we do experience it, and realize and experiment what Don Juan has accomplished. It took us 30 years."

Florinda then explains us the truth of the energetic cocoon and the  assemblage point (I will shorten this part, as it's already well explains in CC's literature)

"We are a luminous cocoon. The outside border is roughly at arm's  distance from our physical body."

Florinda moves her arm around her to virtually display the cocoon.

"Seers see on the surface of the cocoon a  bright spot, the size of a tennis ball, the assemblage point. This spot is  where the perception takes place. Everyone has the assemblage point at  roughly the same spot, an arm distance behind us, at the level of our  shoulder. The assemblage point allows us to perceive a consistent world.  It collects and assembles the filament of energy that flow through the  universe."

She added that awareness is a glow shinning along the luminous cocoon. Ideally the whole luminous sphere should be shining, like the sorcerer's ones.

Socialization, language and our ego do keep awareness at a minimum.  The awareness shine at the level of our feet (it means at the lower portion of our luminous cocoon). The inner dialogue is the most responsible factor. It makes us perceive a limited world. A  consequence is that understanding is not enough. Everything is filtered through the Me. What we understand, think or judge is our inner talk. As long as we rely on Me, there is nothing to talk about,  nothing to understand. Real understanding is a matter of raising our  energy level. Everything in sorcery is a question of energy level.

"Sorcery is in fact to navigate. We aren't gurus, nor masters, even  not spiritualists. Spiritualists are people working through the Me. We are perceivers. We don't know where we are going, it's above our  intellectual level. We are after Freedom, something very abstract. We are navigators of the unknown."

"We have summarized the sorcerer practice into Recapitulation and  Tensegrity."

"The goal of Tensegrity is to simply attain inner silence. The numbers of movements saturate our memory, which help us stopping our inner dialog and attain inner silence.

We do have to cumulate many inner silences, until a threshold is reached, where our energy level raises. This stage is stopping the world, where the assemblage point starts to move. Then we are able to see the energy, as it flows through the universe. As we practice  this awareness, we enhance manifold our capacity to evolve. Direct  knowledge is a gift available, which gives us the real potentiality  to evolve by our own, without any help from teacher or master."

Florinda then talked about the Eagle, this universal forces which lead everything and specifically life. Florinda continued that the Eagle is only an representation.

"For sure something exists out here, an abstract forces which  dispense life, and disintegrate it when we die. This force dispenses  life, and is after the growing awareness or experiences. However, the disintegrating force doesn't need the vital energy. The way to separate the vital energy from experience is recapitulation.

"Recapitulation is to relive the life experience, and in remembering,  repeating and reliving them, to give to the force what it wants, the experiences."

A woman asked about how to breathe for the recapitulation. Florinda  said it is not that important.

"Do not attach at details. Do it ! Recapitulation can be done at every moment, everywhere. It's a huge task, which never end."

"The recapitulation is mandatory. Another good point is that it forces the assemblage point to move slightly, to the place where it was in the  moment you are recapitulating. It's a good exercise to dislodge the  assemblage point."

Recapitulation is a way to attack self-importance. The Recapitulation and Tensegrity sorcerer passes are practices we can  use to enhance our awareness, our energy level. The Recapitulation  trains us to remember more and more about our past interactions with people. We then see our old familiar patterns, our behaviors, which  are endless, repeated throughout our life. Being aware of these patterns help us to remove the Me, to be more fluid and free.  Recapitulation does as well recapture all the energy we spent in past  interactions. When practiced together with Tensegrity passes, which  are body manoeuvers intended to move energy, we begin to realign our  energy and reduce our self-concerns, then we will be able to attain inner silence, and see how the energy flow through the universe.  Mini-lecture entitled the effect and the mood created by the Magical Passes.

This lecture was very short. The Element told us the same topics, when teaching us the movements, which were completed during this talk by  Florinda.

"We are insular energy beings, born with a certain amount of energy. This energy is what we have all our life. We don't loose this energy, nor  do we gain more. Nothing in our daily life can steal us energy. When we  feel tired, it is not that we loose energy outside, rather our energy leaves our vital center, then disperses to the inside border of our cocoon, at the extreme limit of it. For seers it's looks like orange peel  or wood bark. This happens mainly due to the activity of our current daily  life, and definitely due to our self-importance and our inner babbling. The more we loose energy from our vital center, the more it agglutinates to the inside border of the luminous cocoon. With time, this energy forms a hard membrane. After a while during the course of our life, it causes decrepitude of our physical bodies. We then become more and more weak  until we die."

One of the Tensegrity goals is to bring back the external energy to were it belongs, into our vital center. Tensegrity movement breaks down the  crust of the energy accumulated to the border of the cocoon and brings  back this energy to our vital center. Punch or shot with hand, motion's style breaks the outside energy. Massage or incoming movement to the body release freeing up energy to our center.

The six vital centers are:

-- The womb, only for woman. (The man's sexual organ is not a center)
-- Around the pancreas and the spleen
-- The liver
-- Around the kidney and adrenals
-- The V-spot which is the small indentation at the base of the throat
-- And the top of the head

I didn't understand if the organs are the vital center, or if they are linked to it. I heard as well that we have other vital centers, which are minor, and mostly linked to the six mentioned above. Tensegrity does not deal with the center on the top of the head. The energy on this center moves back and forth. I know from previous workshop notes, that this center is in possession from entities,  named fliers. At the Barcelona workshop, this subject wasn't brought up.


We are no longer evolving. They decided to give us Tensegrity and  Recapitulation to give a chance to the humanity to evolve. Humanity  will disappear, because we do not evolve anymore.

One of the reasons for humanity not evolving anymore is that we are  bored fucks and because woman has lost the second function of her  womb. By bored fuck they mean that most of the humanity was born  during annoyed conception. Our parents, we, all humans, do not take love as a magical act. The mother should have an orgasm during the love act, in order to conceive high-energy children.


This theme was expressed many times throughout the workshop and  apparently applies not only to Tensegrity. We were taught around 200 movements. I have been completely saturated with these numerous passes, most of them short. Complete attention was required. This is by itself a good sorcerer practice, not easy for us, poor baby shrouded in our concern and our ego. I confess to have completely loose my attention the last hour on the first day, thus I apparently missed the Serie of Left and Right body. Saturation was the main  topics of this workshop. We were taught that learning a huge amount  of movements do flood our memory. This constrains the inner dialogue and helps to interrupt it.

I do understand what they mean with this concept. We were taught so  many movements, which induce at least, to me, a complete saturation  of my capacity to keep my mind in control. I stopped to try remembering the good order and orchestration of the 6 Tensegrity series. At the end of the workshop, during the exercises, instead of  being somewhat upset not being capable to keep up with the movements,  I let myself go, release my inner dialog and feel very good. I was  very frivolous, ready to laugh when looking at other participants, imitating, as they were able the passes. I saw how we were all  concerned with our ego. I saw frustration on some people's faces. I was like them the first day. I do understand why Lectures are so short. Practice is more important. I believe this workshop was not intended to hear what is already in books or to ask questions. It was  intended to give us a glimpse of Inner silence through saturation.

Anyway, I have now (back at home) real sorcerers challenge : Since my  mind does not remember, I rely on my body knowledge to recover the passes we learned during this stupendous workshop.

Lecture: The role of dreaming and stalking in the discovery and development of the Magical Passes.

Taisha started her talk with the interpretation system, which is also  designate as the human mould. This system allows intersubjectivity to take place: we, all humans perceive the same world, because we share  the same position of the assemblage point. The assemblage point moves  in sleep, but always returns to the same spot, unless you practice  the art of dreaming, which is the utilization of dreams as an practice to enter other realms.Taisha continue on with the origin of  the art of Tensegrity:

"10000 years ago, the old sorcerers discovered during journeys in  Dream that certain movements, involving positions of the arms and  legs produced a feeling of well being. These movements came spontaneous without any act of will from them, induced by some direct  link to knowledge. The old sorcerers spent a stupendous effort to reproduce these movements in the daily awareness. After many efforts they succeeded. These passes were very powerful, so effective, they  named them: The Magical passes."

"From generation to generation, they began to surround the Magical passes with a somber mood, with mystery, with ritual. They kept this  practice very secret. As time was passing, more and more ritual and  ceremony was shrouding around this secret knowledge. The original mood of the passes was lost."

Taisha told us that women did most of the movements, men were not  allowed to assist these ceremonies. Only recently men started to practice Tensegrity.

"The new practitioners have removed the rituals, refined the movements to meet modern mood. Modern sorcerers are seeking purposes, efficacity and pragmatism.

That's why we decided to teach Tensegrity to anyone who wanted to  learn. What is necessary is not ritual, somber manoeuver but agility of the body and the mind.

The original intent of the magical passes is intact and here,  present, available to all who practice to produce well-being, harmony and strength, and to achieve the highest goal to enter other realms."

Energy redeployment

Florinda talks about strategic choices in the shamans world. She first tells us a story. She explained that in Venezuela she was very adulated. Not only she was delightful and intelligent, but in addition she  was a woman driving cars like men. She loved cars. She was the best concerning driving. She raced with one of the best race champion of her time. She didn't want to say her name so not to figure out her actual age (this was a joke, to punctuate the woman's age obsession).

She said : "I was the best. I received from my father a Porsche, and I was very good at it. I was very touchy concerning car. I never wanted Castaneda or friends to drive me, for I didn't want them to know where I  was going. I was told that I didn't have to use a car in LA. There were buses. Buses are pussy, slow. How can we travel in the city of LA ? We  need a car in LA....!!"

"One day, I bought a new car, didn't have the time to take an insurance, and went to the old Florinda. We drove together to the nearby mountains. The old Florinda asked me if she could have a try. Reluctant, I gave her the key. The old Florinda managed then to run off the road down a small  ravine. The car was completely destroyed."

Florinda told us she was so ill to see her new car useless, no insurance to get her money back. And no more money to buy a new one.

"I was crazy, upset. My life broke down. After a while, something  happened to me. I began to use collective transport, to be driven by  other, abd not drive anymore. I saw the life in another angle. Since then,  I never drove again. 15 years now. This was a strategically move. This is an example of what we have to do to move out from our daily preoccupations. Each one of us has something, which can be used as a strategically manoeuver."

After the workshop while waiting for my airplane to return home, I recollected this talk; and an inspiration suddenly came to my mind. Personally, I never wear watch, an old habit fostered when I was an adolescent outsider. Watch is for people glued in the active life. I'm cool. Clock is not for me. Clock does influence the energy as it flows  along our arms. During the workshop, I was internally reproaching people  to do movement with their big watch. How can they do Tensegrity with watch, was I asking. Years ago, when I started to work, I was always looking after the time. I have not to be late at work, may not forget a  rendezvous. Unaware, I spent a lot of energy seeking for the time.  When I left the workshop Sunday afternoon, I decided to buy a watch. I've found a tiny strategically manoeuver.

Men and Women

We have 6 main energetical centers. Men lack one, the sixth one, the womb, which belongs to Women. This center gives women a better link to the  Spirit, therefore it is easier for our sisters to progress. Men have to give a lot more effort to be a shaman than women. This gives them in balance, when reaching the shaman level a definitive advantage,  due to the effort to be put on. Men have more awareness of the different steps it takes to evolve. Florinda told us that Men spent their time on details to understand. That's why they build marvelous things found in our daily world. Men are overwhelmed with what they have built. Women due to their facilities to  understand (to have a direct link to the knowledge) have more and more hidden this facility, because it's easy for them. With time, they have completely lost their talent. Socialization does restrict women to use  the second function of their Womb.

Florinda was very humoristic on this subject, as well as with other  topics. She spoke in small sentences, often punctuating her talk with a succession of single words, like a burst of image. I remember when she was  describing herself under the time with Don Juan:

"I was the most important person. You know how women are ! I'm beautiful. Nice ! The best ! Once, I thought that Don Juan was impotent. I  was very concerned for this. He was strong, still good looking despite his age. He was always alone, no girlfriend. I decided to advise him. With my  best knowledge, very confident, proud of myself, I asked Don Juan to see a psychanalyst, a doctor, who could take care of him. Don Juan laughed a lot, he put his pants down to show me his attribute, which were apparently very functional (he was able to erect his penis immediately). I was so upset, so angry ! Furious ! He put me really in place. Afterward I started to change about what women think of themselves."

Florinda told us that the second function of the womb is to a great extend very active during menstruation. Traditionally, in our society, the woman is isolated during that period. Some culture fasten women in a dark room. Women are dirty, they do smell bad. Women are bizarre, and those men  throughout ages have alienated this cycle feature of women. During this state woman have an enhanced capacity to Dream, to move their  assemblage point, a direct link to knowledge. Certain cultures in some ways admit this truth, like for example the Yaquis, when a group of women  were having menstruation at the same time, they came together to decide important matters of the tribe.

Shamanistic Theater

The two youngest girl made two performances of shamanistic theatre, in which they danced, among others, some Spanish folk songs with spanish dresses and, executing magical passes in such an volatile manner that the passes were the dance itself. This performance was very appealing, funny and ingenious. The rest of the Trackers, Brandon and Miles, in pairs,  performed long magical passes, one particularly was exceptional, an  exhibition with knives. Tensegrity does reveal many aspects, this one was  very warrior like.

At the end of the workshop, just after the show, Florinda started to dance as well, quickly followed by all the audience. The workshop ended with an  explosion of joy, people dancing all over the place.

Mixed notes

Throughout the workshop, we were told many remarks and comments, to reiterate concept already explained during lectures, or to punctuate many facets of the art of Tensegrity. Saturday night, Florinda and two young men belonging to the Element were as well available for a short Q&A session.

One of the girls of the Energy tracker told us that Castaneda has already finished his new book. Translations are currently ongoing. Date release should be end of 97 or early 98 (what I understand is that they wait until the translations are done, in order to release the new book).

I noticed that water supply got significant rules during orations. Before any speech, they drank a gulp of water. Water supply in bottles or cans was available everywhere in the area of the workshop. And if during a talk water was absent the witches asked by sign to the Tensegrity staff for it. During discourse, when concluding a topic, or moving to another point of the discussion, they paused to satisfy their thirst. It was done naturally, remarking their action with diverting comments about being thirsty or droughty. I heard somewhere at the end of the workshop, that drinking water often is important.  It's very important for sorcerers. I surely agree, seeing them by my eyes pursuing this rule.

"You can remember all the moves you have learned if you reach inner silence. Do the passes as you remember, don't look for details. It's not that important. Do it each day. Extreme concentration should be applied. Passes should be performed with great precision, with the whole body. Movements involving strike, blow or a la karate kick, must be done with great force, hence the move should stop before the end of the course. Harm can result if we do not pay attention."

You must avoid the exercises to become routine. You can practice in group, however, however be careful of socialization.

"Do not wait for results. Change is a slow process. The body with time, will grow up, be more flexible and stronger. The passes do give a well being, a better concentration, vigilance and attention."

Some movement's deal with the left energetical body, these passes are done with the left arm or legs. Someone asked what about left-handed. The reply was very clear, we deal with the left area of the energetical body. What counts is the physical interaction with the left area, so I do understand that left and right-handed doesn't matter with Tensegrity.

One question was what should we eat. Florinda replied that sorcerers eat everything. We aim not to eat sugar, alcohol, tea, coffee, etc...

"Everyone should find his own balance. It's up to you to take yourself in charge, to find what is good for you. Don Juan from time to time used to drink a beer. Well, we don't have to get drunk... Alcohol is bad, coffee is bad, sugar is bad, ... chocolate is good!"

A woman asked in an hysterical and laborious manner, what about the Eagles devouring us, children being killed in accidents, war devastating many innocent. Why they have not a chance, etc... Florinda laughed, and just passed by to another question. Later, to a similar question, Brandon told us, it us up to us to experiment how the Energy flow through the Universe. Then we will be able to interpret on our own the universal forces, which dissolve us when we die.

Someone else asked if we could manage with our relationships, families, etc... while pursuing sorcery ? Florinda said absolutely not, just start where you are.

"Do Tensegrity during one year, then start recapitulation."

A woman asked what happened with women that had been operated on and the uterus removed. Florinda answered that those women have to follow the same long and laborious way as men, who also do not have a womb.

Another woman asked how Brandon and the other Elements and Energy Trackers are here and now involved in sorcery ? If they are entail completely in Tensegrity and sorcery. Florinda, which was in the middle of the two young men, replied:

"No, all of them do work and live like anyone. They don't live together. I don't know were these young men do live, and what they do, which jobs. They do Tensegrity, and because they do it impeccably, they are here with us in this workshop."

"We do need an interpretation system. We are perceptors, and such without an interpreting system we would not be able to assemble a complete world. When seeing the energy flowing through the universe, we would not be able to arrange our perception. Perception will be chaotic."

Tensegrity due to it's nature can heal sickness and pain.

Personal summary

I met an old friend at the workshop who abandoned everything for Tensegrity. This person moved out from Europe and settled in LA. I was impressed of such a radical choice. After what I heard at the workshop I do understand that the Elements and Energy Trackers have done more or less similar choices. The possibility to reach the level of CC's clan, is not an illusion, it's real. We can attain Freedom. We can intent to be like the new followers, and be like them.

I would like to perform similar moves. Hence, my life has taken another turn: I have a family in charge, and such move implies being selfish ! I struggled since years with this paradox: How to evolve in Nagualism and be responsible for a family ? During the workshop, due to a rise of my energy level I found a solution: why to not use my life as it is actually ? This is a form of stalking. Others can say Controlled Folly. I do not like this term. I prefer to say I want to enjoy, learn and be aware of what is happening around me, or be aware how I'm acting or re-acting with my fellow men. I intent to be aware of my inner structure in order to perfect my act, to temper my mood and to better look after my family. Florinda once said acting impeccably is to pull your energy out of the social order. I find another answer in Taisha's book: When you act impeccably you aim to your energetical body, because perfection is already a quality of our double. If your act is impeccable then your action in the society doesn't affect you: the energy balance is at your side.

Everything is possible. We are born in a magical world,  and we are already magicians !...


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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 00:13:19 +0000

This is a translation of a posting in Spanish. Credit and thanks go to the original poster, the errors are all mine.

Talk by Florinda Donner-Grau
Barcelona Tensegrity Seminar
Pavilion of the Beautiful Sea
June 21, 1997

During the Tensegrity Seminar held in Barcelona on the 20, 21 and 22 of June of 1997, in the Pavilion of the Beautiful Sea, Florinda Donner-Grau made several appearances speaking of the facts and the basic explanations that they have given as the difficult rational explanation of Tensegrity. The points treated in most of the talks were already familiar to the initiates, as well as being addressed in the only talk given by Taisha Abelar. It was in the part devoted to requests and questions in which there was a little more "meat" regarding news or small pearls that, it seems, the sorcerers have us so accustomed to catching on the wing. Surrounded by the seminar assistants and sitting on the central dais of the pavilion of the Beautiful Sea were Miles Reed, Tala Bey, Florinda Donner-Grau and Brandon Scott. These were the answers that they gave to some questions:

[What do the sorcerers eat?] "People think that the sorcerers are people that only eat potatoes and meat. No. We eat everything. We strive not to eat sugar because we all know that it is bad. Also we avoid alcohol, coffee, etc. Clearly there are people that can not avoid the temptation of the meal... or of the meat (laughs). One must eat all, above all now that they are submitted to much wear by this Tensegrity. Balanced nourishment is basic and.... what do they want? I even saw a beer taken from time to time by the old nagual. Well then, now they are not going to get drunk tonight....... Alcohol is bad, coffee is bad, sugar is bad, .... chocolate is good (laughs)."

[Concerning practicing Tensegrity in the open air] "The currents of air are not always what they seem. The old nagual was horrified when he would see people jogging, thinking that they were doing something healthy, with all that wind blowing on their bodies."

[Someone returned to the question of why they had decided to make public the topic of the Magic Passes] "It is the interpretation that the four of us (Castaneda, Tiggs, Donner and Abelar) finally gave to Don Juan's slogan "to close the Lineage with a Gold Clasp."

[Of how it is possible to reach freedom without a group] "I said yesterday: we are not a group. All have been taught and each one has to do the work. It is very simple: the personal "I" has to die, that is what anyone of us has to do. I do not know what is going to happen to me tomorrow ... perhaps die, I do not know. As such, it only remains to be impeccable in each moment, all that remains is the inflexible attempt of be Florinda Donner-Grau each day that passes, without rest."

[And the question on sex, celibacy, the saving of energy... etc.] "I do not know if you are familiar with the term "Bored Sex". It may be that to you it seems a little gross, but it is certain that we all have a quantity of energy determined by the moment in which we were begotten, and that most of us were begotten in a moment of extreme boredom, so that we have very little energy and that this has to be hoarded if in truth we want to use it to move us to the immensity out there. What do you want us to say? Do what you wish. It will not be us to say do not make love, that is a very personal decision."

[Question on whether Tensegrity can be practiced while pregnant] "Yes. All the passes except those of the womb."

[Someone asked how to tell if one is Dreaming. Florinda wanted that Miles to answer that question, since, according to her, he was Dreaming. Finally he answered,] "Look, dear heart, if you ask me that question you are not Dreaming. When you Dream you know that you are Dreaming. Dreaming is not having lucid dreams: dreaming means moving the assemblage point."

[Someone asked that they explain a little more regarding the topic of the Eagle. Florinda, after commenting that that topic was a little arcane, passed the question to Brandon and he answered] "The shamans of the ancient Mexico used metaphors to explain things that, they insisted, could not be explained rationally in any way. They would see something that to them recalled the figure of an eagle and therefore described, in a poetic way, that monstrous force as an eagle. But what is certain is that as apt as certain metaphors could be, because we do not see energy directly as it flows in the universe, we do not know in reality what is happening."

[Topic of menstruation: what happens, energetically, when a woman menstruates] "Traditionally, in our society, the woman is separated during that period of time: it is dirty and smells bad. It is certain that during that state it is more easy to Dream, and certain cultures recognize that in some way, as for example the Yaquis: they utilized a group of menstruating women to decide matters of importance."

[A vague question on the steps to take for Dreaming. This question was answered by Brandon] "It is not easy. In addition to attempting to attract the dream attention, according to what we can read in "The Art of Dreaming," one must accumulate seconds of internal silence. Establish a routine that it is not routine: move not to react as we always react..."

[Question on whether Tensegrity can solve diseases, serious or not] "Definitely we believe so. I do not say that it will be infallible but I have seen people that have cured ulcers and similar problems. There is a person in Los Angeles that was very ill with cancer and that even had to go in a wheelchair. The other day I saw him in Santa Monica inserting coins in a parking meter. From what I know, because of the impossibility of practicing Tensegrity in the wheelchair, he was carried to practice it in a pool."

[Question on the Tenant] Response: "The Tenant has gone."

[Question on what can happen if Tensegrity is practiced wrong. Florinda passed the question to Brandon] "But...why do they go to practice it wrong...? Since they practice well, no? (laughs). Now seriously: what is important is to practice, even if is practiced wrong. Do not give it too much importance if you don't remember too much of a pass. The thing is to do it, don't stop practicing because of that."

[A woman asked what happened with women that had been operated on and their uterus removed, in reference to the passes of the womb] "In that case - answered Florinda - those women have to be strengthened as if they were a man, who also does not have a womb."

[Speaking on the people attending] "You are providing an exquisite energy in this seminar. You are dreaming Tensegrity."

To: The Ixtlan Mailing List
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:53:59 +0000

Never in my life I experienced something like this. So, finally I got back home, in a new, more conscious, more powerful way. Even now I can hardly believe it. Awkwardly trying to stalk my  daily life... Barcelona gave me a key to Carlos Castaneda's books. I crossed the line between fiction and reality.

In the first place I was deeply moved by the place where the seminar took place: a wonderful sport pavilion at the sea with walls partly  made of glass. There were 719 participants, mostly from Spain and  Italy. Short lectures were given by Florinda Donner Grau, Taisha  Abelar, Blue Scout and some of The Energy Trackers and The Elements.  And of course lots of Passes. At first I had to overcome the frustration of not being able to remember them all. Then I gave it up  trusting my body will remember them all anyway.

The most important of the lectures to me was the concept of taking your own responsibility in the face of Infinity. A bridge one has to  build all by himself between himself and the Infinity, day by day. Also the idea of sorcerer's pragmatism concerning one's level of  energy. Something I started to understand thanks to the seminar.

After doing Tensegrity one and a half day I started to feel a new kind of strength inside me, or a very old one I used to feel as a child. A strength which had nothing to do with what happened in the  outer world. Of course in the outer world I was doing Tensegrity, but I mean, the strength had nothing to do with my thoughts or feelings,  nothing to do with my ego. Walking along the beach back to where I  stayed, on Saturday evening, I felt strangly detached from everything happening there, people eating, dancing, "enjoing themselves", trying  to make the best of their lives. I felt the pointlessness of their trying, and pointlessness of my trying in the past. It only discarded  my energy, wore it off, leaving me tired and empty. I felt it the more, the more the outside world contrasted the strength inside me. A lasting, unwearable strength. Not even happiness but strength.

During one of her lectures Florinda Donner was talking about recapitulation, about separating the vital energy from experience. I  think that was what I felt that evening. And suddenly I understood  why one needs energy to accomplish anything in the sorcerer's world.

At the end of the seminar on Sunday afternoon I was unable to  remember the simplest sequence of movement. The goal of the seminar:  saturation, had been fully accomplished. And of course I almost couldn't move a limb.

The last new and unbelievable experience I had on Monday, when I went to see the city of Barcelona. All of the sudden I understood what "stalking the shopping centre", Florinda had talked about, meant. The  shopping centre was getting to me, it was trying to get under my  skin, seduce me back into the daily life. It was trying to rip me off my strength, my detachment, to mix the experience and energy all  together again. And so was the journey back home, by bus. Becouse we have a name for everything we do. The internal dialogue goes further than I could imagine. Stalking your own life means not letting you brainwash by it, as my friend wonderfully put it.

Back at home I'm trying to retrieve from my body everything I do remember. They are more peaces of movements than complete passes. I also partially lost the battle with the daily life, it succeeded in brainwashing me, but at least I'm conscious of it and fighting. And  there is still something in me, that has been changed forever. O.K. I  don't remember the passes. But retrieving of what I do remember and performing it the best I can helps me to maintain the part of me that has been changed. "You almost dreamt the Passes" Florinda said, and that is the feeling I maintain by doing them. In the end I take  comfort in her words that one can better practice bad Tensegrity, than not to practice it at all.

And there was an anouncement of the book describing all of the passes  teached during the seminar coming next year!

So far Barcelona. I wish you all lots of personal power.
Love. Kasia